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hussain mavia
04-15-2008, 10:30 PM
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haq-mil-gaya
07-23-2008, 07:13 AM
Es Sawaal k Jawaab ko Mai 3 Hissoun par Taqseem karta houn

1.Hum Shioun k liye Quran aur Ahle Bayt(as) Hujjat hai, Farde Wahid(Ghair Masoom) ka Qaul os Waqt Sahi mana Jaiega Jab Wo Quran aur Hadees k Mukkalif na ho. Chunache Aap k scan k es lehaaz se koi Ahmiyat nahee reh jaati.

2.Edhur Muaviyah ko mai Dawat Deta houn k WO Kahi bhi Proof kar dein apni Topic ki statement ko. Mujhe Kahi bhi ye Dhekhaie nahee deta Jo Muaviyah Sahab ne Likha hai Ali ka Rutba Allah Say Bara Shia Aqeeda.En se Guzarish hai k Apna Qayaas apni Hud Tak Mehfooz rakhein.

3.Asli Ebarat ye hai

Ye Wo Zaat hai jo Khaliqe Kainat ki Tarha Bemisil aur Benazir hai.

Ab Aeteraaz jo keeya gaya hai wo "Comparision" ka keeya gaya, Jo Neehayat hee Ahmeqana hai.

Khuda ki Safaat ka Mazhar Ensaan hai yani Khuda Jaise Raheem hai waise Momin bhi Raheem hai magar Farq ye hai k "Khuda Ki Rehmaniyat La Mehdood" aur "Momin ki Rehmaniyat Mehdood". Lehaaza Hume aik cheez ka Nateeja Mila wo ye k Siffate Khuda k kuch Hissa Ensaan mai bhi paaya jaata hai aur es k liye mere paas Qurani Dalail bhi hai.

Gurz ye k Khuda ki Siffat os ki Aien Zaat hai aur Wo Mutlaqun hai magar Ensaan ki Khusosiat Juzwun hai.

Aur Yahee Baat edhur ki Jarahi hai k Ahle Bayt(as) bhi Apne Sakhawat aur Kirdaar mai Bemisil hai kyun k Khuda ne en ki Thateer Surahe Ahzab Ayat#33 mai bayaan ki hai aur Allah ka bhi es Mua'mle mai koi Misl nahee.

magar ye Kahi Nahee likha hai k "Ahle Bayt(as) k Kirdaar ki Mumaselat Khuda se hai" Bal k logoun se compare k Taur par es Jumle ko ada keeya gaya hai.

ALIJAN1001
07-23-2008, 11:20 AM
Es Sawaal k Jawaab ko Mai 3 Hissoun par Taqseem karta houn

1.Hum Shioun k liye Quran aur Ahle Bayt(as) Hujjat hai, Farde Wahid(Ghair Masoom) ka Qaul os Waqt Sahi mana Jaiega Jab Wo Quran aur Hadees k Mukkalif na ho. Chunache Aap k scan k es lehaaz se koi Ahmiyat nahee reh jaati.

2.Edhur Muaviyah ko mai Dawat Deta houn k WO Kahi bhi Proof kar dein apni Topic ki statement ko. Mujhe Kahi bhi ye Dhekhaie nahee deta Jo Muaviyah Sahab ne Likha hai Ali ka Rutba Allah Say Bara Shia Aqeeda.En se Guzarish hai k Apna Qayaas apni Hud Tak Mehfooz rakhein.

3.Asli Ebarat ye hai

Ye Wo Zaat hai jo Khaliqe Kainat ki Tarha Bemisil aur Benazir hai.

Ab Aeteraaz jo keeya gaya hai wo "Comparision" ka keeya gaya, Jo Neehayat hee Ahmeqana hai.

Khuda ki Safaat ka Mazhar Ensaan hai yani Khuda Jaise Raheem hai waise Momin bhi Raheem hai magar Farq ye hai k "Khuda Ki Rehmaniyat La Mehdood" aur "Momin ki Rehmaniyat Mehdood". Lehaaza Hume aik cheez ka Nateeja Mila wo ye k Siffate Khuda k kuch Hissa Ensaan mai bhi paaya jaata hai aur es k liye mere paas Qurani Dalail bhi hai.

Gurz ye k Khuda ki Siffat os ki Aien Zaat hai aur Wo Mutlaqun hai magar Ensaan ki Khusosiat Juzwun hai.

Aur Yahee Baat edhur ki Jarahi hai k Ahle Bayt(as) bhi Apne Sakhawat aur Kirdaar mai Bemisil hai kyun k Khuda ne en ki Thateer Surahe Ahzab Ayat#33 mai bayaan ki hai aur Allah ka bhi es Mua'mle mai koi Misl nahee.

magar ye Kahi Nahee likha hai k "Ahle Bayt(as) k Kirdaar ki Mumaselat Khuda se hai" Bal k logoun se compare k Taur par es Jumle ko ada keeya gaya hai.


bouh bhonda majak hai allah say kasi ka mawajna nahi kiya jasakta, allah yakta of aala hai, ali ra human hain our created say creater kay comparision mumkin nahi.


:sow:

haq-mil-gaya
07-24-2008, 03:23 PM
Wah Wah Alijaan Bhayya 3 Nukaat mai se aik ka jawaab bhi na deeya aur apne aap ko champion Tasawwur karne lage.

Ab Sahee Se Jawaab parho aur Phir es ko Rad karo.

ALIJAN1001
07-25-2008, 07:18 AM
your first question if rubbish and wrong, no one compair allah with human so, how can i answer such rubbish question.

for your information i was shia and converted into muslim 5 years back.

syed ali jan jaffery. (ex.shia)

mufti-e-azam
07-25-2008, 07:29 AM
your first question if rubbish and wrong, no one compair allah with human so, how can i answer such rubbish question.

for your information i was shia and converted into muslim 5 years back.

syed ali jan jaffery. (ex.shia)
hahahahaha Alijan mubarrak ho aap musalman ho gaye...khutna bhi abhi kerwaya hai ya pehlay ho gaya tha kiun k non-muslim to khatna nahi kerwatay na :)) khair aap ko sawal rubbish lagay to aap jawab dena pasand hi nahi ker rahay...mein aap se pooch sakta hoon k abhi tak aap ne kis topic per kis sawal ka jawab diya hai ?? apni jahiliat ka ilzam dosron per mat lagao bachay...

ALIJAN1001
07-25-2008, 07:33 AM
your first question if rubbish and wrong, no one compair allah with human so, how can i answer such rubbish question.

for your information i was shia and converted into muslim 5 years back.

syed ali jan jaffery. (ex.shia)
hahahahaha Alijan mubarrak ho aap musalman ho gaye...khutna bhi abhi kerwaya hai ya pehlay ho gaya tha kiun k non-muslim to khatna nahi kerwatay na :)) khair aap ko sawal rubbish lagay to aap jawab dena pasand hi nahi ker rahay...mein aap se pooch sakta hoon k abhi tak aap ne kis topic per kis sawal ka jawab diya hai ?? apni jahiliat ka ilzam dosron per mat lagao bachay...


this is your beliefs about ali ra.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]

mufti-e-azam
07-25-2008, 07:40 AM
this is your beliefs about ali ra.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]
:)) aap to ghussa kha gaye Alijan sahab..janab aap to MashAllah se shia thay to Jila Ul Ayoon aap ne perhi ho gi aur aap k paas ab mojood bhi ho gi kiun k research k baghair to aap sunni honay se rhay..to scan page dikha dein iss ka to aap ki bari mehrbani ho gi janab....hum wait karein ge aap ki jald wapsi ka..

ALIJAN1001
07-25-2008, 07:47 AM
this is your beliefs about ali ra.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]
:)) aap to ghussa kha gaye Alijan sahab..janab aap to MashAllah se shia thay to Jila Ul Ayoon aap ne perhi ho gi aur aap k paas ab mojood bhi ho gi kiun k research k baghair to aap sunni honay se rhay..to scan page dikha dein iss ka to aap ki bari mehrbani ho gi janab....hum wait karein ge aap ki jald wapsi ka..


if you have any reservation about, you may check such in reffereed book.

also for your information ahlul bait as per quran are wives of prophet pbuh and further defined in hadith-e-kisa.

you may visit link below and read sura al-ahjab clearly addressed to wives of prophet pbuh.

this is from tafseef ibn -e- kaseer.

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mufti-e-azam
07-25-2008, 07:58 AM
if you have any reservation about, you may check such in reffereed book.

also for your information ahlul bait as per quran are wives of prophet pbuh and further defined in hadith-e-kisa.

you may visit link below and read sura al-ahjab clearly addressed to wives of prophet pbuh.

this is from tafseef ibn -e- kaseer.

http://qurango.com/images/t4/267.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/268.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/269.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/272.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/273.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/274.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/275.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/276.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/277.jpg
aap shia se sunni ho gaye lakin aap ko abhi tak itna pata nahi chala k tafseer ibne kathir shia book nahi hai :)) aur iss terha link copy paste mat karo meray bachay...aik aik page yahan upload karo phir samjhao k tum ne yeh upload kiun kiya...ta k mein phir tumhain zaleel ker sakon :)) chalo shabash yeh meray sath copy paste ki adat choro bachay...

ALIJAN1001
07-25-2008, 09:04 AM
if you have any reservation about, you may check such in reffereed book.

also for your information ahlul bait as per quran are wives of prophet pbuh and further defined in hadith-e-kisa.

you may visit link below and read sura al-ahjab clearly addressed to wives of prophet pbuh.

this is from tafseef ibn -e- kaseer.

http://qurango.com/images/t4/267.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/268.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/269.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/272.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/273.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/274.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/275.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/276.jpg
http://qurango.com/images/t4/277.jpg
aap shia se sunni ho gaye lakin aap ko abhi tak itna pata nahi chala k tafseer ibne kathir shia book nahi hai :)) aur iss terha link copy paste mat karo meray bachay...aik aik page yahan upload karo phir samjhao k tum ne yeh upload kiun kiya...ta k mein phir tumhain zaleel ker sakon :)) chalo shabash yeh meray sath copy paste ki adat choro bachay...


where did i say that tafseer ibn -e- khateer is shia book lol, i am explaning muslim ummah not you to visit and read what sura al-ahjab teaches us about house hold of prophet :SAW:

this sura starts with "oh wives of prophet :SAW: " and speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: before ayah-e-thateer and ayah-e-thateer itselfs speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: and after ayah-e-thateer also addressed to wives of prophet :SAW: why shia pick a portion from such sura and labled it to hz. ali ra and his family.

haq-mil-gaya
07-25-2008, 09:25 AM
where did i say that tafseer ibn -e- khateer is shia book lol, i am explaning muslim ummah not you to visit and read what sura al-ahjab teaches us about house hold of prophet :SAW:

this sura starts with "oh wives of prophet :SAW: " and speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: before ayah-e-thateer and ayah-e-thateer itselfs speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: and after ayah-e-thateer also addressed to wives of prophet :SAW: why shia pick a portion from such sura and labled it to hz. ali ra and his family.

Alijaan Sahab Aap Shia Se Sunni converted hai to es mai Etni Uchalne Wali Koi Baat nahee.

Ab ki Guftugu se to lagta hai k aap ne Shio k Usool par hee nazara nahee kari aur na hee os k Dalail parhe..

Khair Ye Mera Mozoun nahee, mai ne aap ko 3 Jawaabaat Deeye aur aap ne aik ka bhi Rud nahee kara bal k apni reewayati Hatkando se Bachne ki Nakaam Koshish kar rahe hai.

Aap k tamaam Sawaalaat k Jawaabaat meri pehli post es thread mai Mujood hai ab zara un ka Rad laie.

Aur Aap ki Knowledge k liye es thread ka Naam "Shia Sunni Ekhtalafaat" hai CHunache es mai jo bhi daleel dejaiegi os ka esbaat Quran aur Mukhalif ki Keetaab se zaroori hai apni keetaboun k liye aur Muslim Ummah ki heedayat k liye ye thread Na kafi hai bal k aap dosre thread mai apne Muslim Bhayyoun ki Tableeg karein yaha faqt hamari kutub aur Quran se Hawala dein

Ab topic se amt deviate ho, Ahle Bayt ka Mozoun bilkul Mukhtalif hai chunache os ka tazkara kahi aur kare.

ALIJAN1001
07-25-2008, 10:28 AM
where did i say that tafseer ibn -e- khateer is shia book lol, i am explaning muslim ummah not you to visit and read what sura al-ahjab teaches us about house hold of prophet :SAW:

this sura starts with "oh wives of prophet :SAW: " and speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: before ayah-e-thateer and ayah-e-thateer itselfs speaks about wives of prophet :SAW: and after ayah-e-thateer also addressed to wives of prophet :SAW: why shia pick a portion from such sura and labled it to hz. ali ra and his family.

Alijaan Sahab Aap Shia Se Sunni converted hai to es mai Etni Uchalne Wali Koi Baat nahee.

Ab ki Guftugu se to lagta hai k aap ne Shio k Usool par hee nazara nahee kari aur na hee os k Dalail parhe..

Khair Ye Mera Mozoun nahee, mai ne aap ko 3 Jawaabaat Deeye aur aap ne aik ka bhi Rud nahee kara bal k apni reewayati Hatkando se Bachne ki Nakaam Koshish kar rahe hai.

Aap k tamaam Sawaalaat k Jawaabaat meri pehli post es thread mai Mujood hai ab zara un ka Rad laie.

Aur Aap ki Knowledge k liye es thread ka Naam "Shia Sunni Ekhtalafaat" hai CHunache es mai jo bhi daleel dejaiegi os ka esbaat Quran aur Mukhalif ki Keetaab se zaroori hai apni keetaboun k liye aur Muslim Ummah ki heedayat k liye ye thread Na kafi hai bal k aap dosre thread mai apne Muslim Bhayyoun ki Tableeg karein yaha faqt hamari kutub aur Quran se Hawala dein

Ab topic se amt deviate ho, Ahle Bayt ka Mozoun bilkul Mukhtalif hai chunache os ka tazkara kahi aur kare.


person calling himselfs mufiti-e-azam misguiding that he is lover of ahlul biat so, that is why i replied that who are actually ahlul bait ra are.

haq-mil-gaya
07-25-2008, 06:16 PM
AliJaan Sahab ab Zara Jawaab Dejeeye.

ALIJAN1001
07-26-2008, 04:17 AM
AliJaan Sahab ab Zara Jawaab Dejeeye.


kis baat ka jawab doun, is baat ka kay ali ra to tum allah mantay ho. :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz:

mufti-e-azam
07-26-2008, 06:57 AM
kis baat ka jawab doun, is baat ka kay ali ra to tum allah mantay ho. :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz: :Nouz:
:)) lagta hai tumhari anakhon per andhera chahta ja rha hai aahista aahista...bachay iss topic per HAQ MIL GAYA ki 2nd post ja ker perh...iss ka amtlab yeh hai k tu posts nahi perhta sirf bakwas kerna hi janta hai :)) chalo ja iss topic ki 2nd post perh aur uss k jawab de...hawa ko bhonkna chore de ab

ALIJAN1001
07-28-2008, 10:25 AM
but this is from authentic book of shia, awaiting your response on this belief.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]

mufti-e-azam
07-28-2008, 05:08 PM
but this is from authentic book of shia, awaiting your response on this belief.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]
yeh to tumhari bhi books meinl ikha hai k Mola Ali a.s jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay walay hain..to jo hasti jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay wali ho uss ko Allah baaki ikhteyar kiun nahi de sakta ??

ALIJAN1001
07-29-2008, 07:00 AM
but this is from authentic book of shia, awaiting your response on this belief.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]
yeh to tumhari bhi books meinl ikha hai k Mola Ali a.s jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay walay hain..to jo hasti jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay wali ho uss ko Allah baaki ikhteyar kiun nahi de sakta ??

jahil admi yeh khahan likha hai humara yeh aqeeda hi nahi kay ali ra jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay walay hain.

hz. ali ra sahabi thay, human thay, mosoom nahi thay, un ka our allah ka koi mukabila nahi.

:la:

hussain mavia
08-03-2008, 04:40 PM
this is your beliefs about ali ra.

005. There is no difference between ALLAH and Ali (r.a) such as in the virtues for; The master of Khatim-e-Suleman, The Master of Doomsday, The master of Siraat (The Bridge over Hell) and Renaissance Field, The Creator of leaves on the trees, The one who ripens the fruits, The one who continued fountains, The one who made drift in the canals (Na'uzubillah). [Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol#2, Pg#85 – Published Lahore]
:)) aap to ghussa kha gaye Alijan sahab..janab aap to MashAllah se shia thay to Jila Ul Ayoon aap ne perhi ho gi aur aap k paas ab mojood bhi ho gi kiun k research k baghair to aap sunni honay se rhay..to scan page dikha dein iss ka to aap ki bari mehrbani ho gi janab....hum wait karein ge aap ki jald wapsi ka..

Orignal page hazir hay janab aur orkut par app ki talash abb bhi jari hay

ALIJAN1001
08-04-2008, 06:47 AM
:sub: :sub: :sub:

allah aap ko khoos rakay.

ameen.
:AA: :AA: :AA:

someone
09-25-2008, 05:37 AM
PEHLE APNE GHAR KO DEKH LO, BAAD MAIN KOI AOR BAAT KARNA,

AHLE SUNAT KE 4 IMAMOON MAIN SE EK IMAM
HAZRAT IMAM SHAF'EE (RA) SAARI LIFE APNI KITAAB DEEWAN E SHAF'EE (RA) LIKHTE RAHE,

AOR, JAB ISS DUNYA SE JAAANE KA WAQT QAREEB AAYAA,

TO DEEWAN E SHAAF'EE (RA) KE AAKHRI PAGES MAIN LIKH DIYAA KE

MAR GIYAA SHAF'EE (RA) , MAGAR AAJTAK YEH NA JAAN SAKKA, KE ALLAH (SWT) USKA RAB HAI YA HAZRAT ALI (AS) .


YE HAI HAZRAT IMAM SHAF'EE (RA) KA ISS DUNYA SE JAANE KE WAQT KA KALMA. AOR DEEWANE SHAF'EE (RA) KAHEEN SE LE KAR PARH LO.
KIUNKE, YE JO KALMA MAINE LIKHI HAI, I THINK, BOHT BOHT SE ALIM JANTE HAIN BOHT MASHHOOR KALMA HAI.
I THINK, HAZRAT IMAM SHAF'EE (RA) KE MAZAAR PAAK PE AAJ BHI YEH KALMA LIKHA HAI.

MAR GIYAA SHAF'EE (RA) , MAGAR AAJTAK YEH NA JAAN SAKKA, KE ALLAH (SWT) USKA RAB HAI YA HAZRAT ALI (AS) .

someone
09-27-2008, 09:52 PM
O ALI JAN, CHAHE SHIA SE SUNNI HO, YA SUNNI SE SHIA, MUJHE IS BAAT SE KOI GHARZ NAHI, KIONKE MAIN SHIA/SUNNI KI BEHS MEI NAHI HOON,

MAGAR HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE BAARE MAIN JHOOT NAHI? NAUZUBILLAH (SWT)


AOR, HAAN ALI JAAN U SAID KE,
jahil admi yeh khahan likha hai humara yeh aqeeda hi nahi kay jannat aur jahanum taqseem kernay walay hain.

mosoom nahi thay,

TO MR. ALI JAAN
AGAR ME SUNNI BOOK KA HAWALE SE YE DIKHA DOON, KE HAZRAT ALI (AS) JANAT AOR JAHANAM KO TAQSEEM KAREIN GE TO?
BOLO TO?
MAAN JAO GE HAZRAT ALI (AS) KO?
AOR YE JANAT JAHANAM KO TAQSEEM KARNA TO HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI BOHT AAM SEE CHOTII SEEE MAMOOLI SEE , FAZEELAT HAI,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) TO ISS SE KAHIIN ZIYADA PATA NAHI ISS SE KITNE BAREE FAZEELTOON KE MALIK HAIN. SUBHAN ALLAH (SWT)

YE JO AAP LOG, AB TAK BEHS KARTE RAHE HO, SHIA KUCH BOLE, SUNNI KUCH BOLE

YE TO HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI MAMOOLI SEE , FAZEELTAAAIN HAIN, HAZRAT ALI (AS) KA TUMKO KIA MALOOM ISS SE KITNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KITNAAAAAAAAAAAAA OONCHI FAZEELTE HAIN,

AOR YE JO MAINE HAZRAT IMAM SHAF'EE (RA) KA FARMAN BATAYA,

YE TO SIREF NASHTA THA, AAP LOGOON KE LIYYE, NASHTA BHI NAHI, AESE HI ZARA ISHARA.


AHLESUNAT KI BARI BARI BOOKS SE, AESI AESI , BAATEN DIKHAAON KE,
HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE CHAHNE WALE JHOOM UTHAIN.
AOR SAATH MAIN, DUNYA HERAAN HO,

YE HAZRAT IMAM SHAF'EE (RA) KA FARMAN JIS MAIN HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE LIYE RAB KA LAFZ ISTIMAAL KIYA, YE TO, AESI KOI HERAAN HONE WALII BAAT NAHI, IS SE BARI BARI HERAAN HONE WALI BAATEN HAIN, AOR SACHI SANAD KE SAATH AHELSUNAT KI BOOKS MAIN HAIN.
JO KE AAP LOGOON KE LIYE HERAN HONE WALII HOON TO HOON
MAGAR HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE CHAHNE WALON KE LIYE, TO IMAAN HAIN, KHUSHI HAIN, DIL KA SAKOON HAI.
AHLE SUNAT KI KITABOON SE HI, BARI BARI KITABOON SE AAGE AAINGII, INSHA ALLAH (SWT) ABHI SABR KARO. SHIOON KI BAAT KIUN KARTE HO, APNE GHAR MAIN HAZRAT ALI (AS) KE RUTBE PE RIVAYAAT DEKHO AOR IMAN LAO HAZRAT ALI (AS) PE .

AB CHAAAHNE WALOON PE BHI HAI, KITNI JALDI HAZRAT ALI (AS) KI SHAAN PAAK , SUN-NA CHAHTE HAIN, KITNI TADAP HAI SUN-NE KEE

Reehab
09-28-2008, 08:33 AM
Soem one mera dilnahi kerta ke taap ke moo lagoon per kiya karoon aab ki bakwas sunninahi jatti aap yeh na kaho ke app ke ahle sunnet ki book me dekhaoon per apni logically batons e batao to jany . wessy ilaem ho ga to bolo ger copy past din he tum logon ka.

daria dil
09-29-2008, 10:53 AM
:salam:

yaha per shia sunni debate chal rahi hai kay ALI OR ALLAH ka kia rutba hai ????

shia khay rahay hai kay suuni books may asi asi batay likhi jis se ALI :RA: ko RAB wagira kha gaya hai (ASTAGFIRULLAH)... or shia esko ALI :RA: ki fazeelut bata rahay hai...

yaha per bohat se confusions hai .......

pahli confusion ya hai kay shia may aik firka ALVI hai joo iraq kay kareeb zidha rahtay hai woo ALI ko khuda ka akeda rakhtay hai.... baki shia ka ya akeda nahi hai lakin ya akeda zaror hai kay Hazarat Ali kay hath may ALLAH ne bohat se power diay howiay hai....

dosri confusion kay imam shafee ne ali ko rab bola hai.... shia hazraat yaha per scan page mang rahay hai ya haq tu hamara bhi banta hai kay kisi per ilzam laganay se acha ya hoga kay imam shafee ki original book ka page scan karkay yaha per laga dia jiay.. KIA IMAM SHAFEE REHMAT ULLAH ALAY ne quran ko nahi parha tha joo asi KUFRIA BAT KARAY GAY ....???

tesri confusion shia loog khai tu ali r.a. ko atna power full dikhatay hai kay sari dunia (nawazubillah) se madad layti hai.... or khai apni fake story may ya dikhatay hai kay Rasool saaw kay Sahaba ne atnay zulm kiay Ali per gardan may rasi dal kar kachca gaya,, woo apna haq tak hasil nahi karsakhay....... ALLAH maf karay.

choothi confusion........shio may AHLAYBAIT ko fantasy sotries ki tarha paish kia jata hai .... joo quran ki taleem kay khilaaf hai....

The believer in tawheed is always morally upright. All his standards come from one and the same authority, the authority of Allah. He does not have double or multiple standards. There is only one Lord and the Lord treats all people equally. The rules of Allah are universal and they are applicable to all people in all places. A believer in tawheed knows that Allah has created everything in this universe, and every thing and every being belongs to Allah. This makes a person very open minded, tolerant, and caring. Sometimes people say that monotheism makes people intolerant, but we say that this is the most tolerant and compassionate belief system. Because we do not believe that this thing belongs to our God and that thing belongs to some other god. It is polytheism and atheism that divide the people and create intolerance and dissentions, not tawheed.

daria dil
09-29-2008, 11:37 AM
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Nahjul Balagha, Sermon 126

Ali says:

“With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority of Muslims because Allah’s hand of protection is on keeping unity. You should beware of division because the one isolated from the group is a prey to Satan just as the one isolated from the flock of sheep is a prey to the wolf. Beware! Whoever calls to this course [of sectarianism], kill him, even though he may be under this headband of mine.”